I want to move using a D visa and a residence permit for self-employment (lavoro autonomo), but in practice I will be employed — I already have an employer. I’m considering self-employment only as a way to enter; I don’t intend to run a sole proprietorship. What does the process of converting a residence permit from lavoro autonomo to lavoro subordinato look like after moving?
When you renew, you show the employer’s payslips, and the Questura then changes the type of residence permit.
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Thanks, alyonka. Do I need a payslip from the very first day of work, or will an employment contract at the time of renewal be enough?
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The contract’s fine — just make sure you boost the page by the time of renewal.
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The employer isn’t bothered — for them it’s just like hiring a resident as usual.
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One more thing about income — when I asked at the patronato (Italian social assistance office) about renewing, they said the questura (Italian police/immigration office) looks not only at the contract but also at the annual amount. For a single person you need to show more than €8,500 per year — that’s kind of the subsistence/minimum living threshold. Buste paga (pay slips) confirm the fact of employment, but whether the amount will be enough is a separate question at renewal.
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Conversion is a completely different process, not just an extension with different paperwork. The list of documents is different — at minimum the nulla osta must be obtained through an employer; without it they won’t switch the type of permesso (permesso di soggiorno). And one more thing many people miss: while you’re registered as self-employed (lavoro autonomo), pension fund contributions are your responsibility — about 4,900 a year. Immediately after the conversion the employer takes that on.
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Regarding the reddito (income tax return) — I asked at the Questura in Genoa; they explained that they check the reddito for the previous year, the one submitted through the tax accountant. The current year is not accepted — it hasn’t been declared yet. If the extension is in the summer and the previous year was weak in terms of amount, that’s the bottleneck, not the contract.
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4,900 a year in contributions as a sole proprietor — a hefty amount while you’re waiting for the conversion
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nulla ostu (нулла осту) — the employer orders it himself; this isn’t a one-day job, plan on at least three months.
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The Partita IVA (VAT number) is also important — when converting it you need to close it, and the Questura in Turin requested confirmation of the closure. If a bank account is opened in its name, it’s better to decide in advance what to do with it; that’s a separate process with the tax office.
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And one more thing about the card itself — when the conversion is approved, the permesso is sent by mail. At the questura they said it sits at the post office for 30 days from the attempted delivery, then it’s sent to the municipality. I was a bit late picking up my first one — I then had to go to a different place, which was an extra trip. So as soon as you know the card has been sent, start tracking it with the tracking number and don’t delay.
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8500 is the official threshold, but the Questura looks at the dichiarazione dei redditi (income tax return) for the previous year; the current contract does not confirm the amount. When requesting the conversion, the nulla osta (clearance) takes about three months on average, and during that entire time INPS contributions remain your responsibility.
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